Comic 631 - Hot surprise!
29th Apr 2021, 12:00 AM in The Butterfly Ruby Heist - Part 1
Hot surprise!
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Microraptor edit delete
Microraptor
Being of Turkish descent on her mother's side, I imagine Cleo having a vaguely "southern" look.
But since the recruitment of Turkish guest workers to Germany won't start until 1961 (which is were the demographic Cleo belongs to originally stems from), it's no wonder that those two guys can't really pinpoint her ethnicity.
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Stilldown edit delete reply
Stilldown
Well, let's not forget the muslim turkish SS regiments formed after the German-turkish Treaty Of Friendship:

- Ostmuselmanische SS-Division
- Turkmuselmanische SS-Division
- Muselmanische SS-Division Neu-Turkistan
- Osttürkischer Waffen-Verband der SS

The new turkish govertment under Atatürk had very friendly connections to the nazis, as the osmans had to Kaiser Wilhelm I. (The sultan Mehmed V even declared the djihad to the allies.)
Microraptor edit delete reply
Microraptor
Sure, Germans and Turks have already been in contact way before 1961 - but I daresay that before that, upon seeing a random person who looks rather Mediterranean, it wouldn't have been most Germans' first guess that said person is Turkish.
Stilldown edit delete reply
Stilldown
Yes, I agree on this.
Just as some additional trivia, I recall being greeted in turkey by turks (years ago) with "Heil Hitler". While the young ones usually used that as insult, the older ones said it without irony, and many turks wouldn't understand that the germans had no sympathy for Hitler - many still believed that he was a good guy. I recall a turkish boy who told me he would be very proud of Hitler if he was german, and hoped my granddad killed many russians (although my granddad was a peaceful guy that talked up against the SS once and was threatened to be shot by them, and always carried a newspaper around so that he could pretend to read just not to say "Heil Hitler")
lirvilas edit delete reply
lirvilas
Newspaper? Nice. It was cell phones before cell phones
Microraptor edit delete reply
Microraptor
@ lirvilas
Once saw something on the internet that made this point:
A modern day photo where commuters on a train/tram/bus/wherever where all staring at their phones, juxtaposed of an old one where everyone had their faces buried in their huge-ass unfolded newspapers instead!
Microraptor edit delete reply
Microraptor
@ Stilldown:
BTW, while I didn't know about the Turkish SS troops specifically, it doesn't really surprise me, because I already knew about SS branches in the Netherlands or France for example.

Also, your experiences in Turkey remind me of how a few years ago somebody in India opened a Nazi-themed restaurant...
Stilldown edit delete reply
Stilldown
Yes, there is the more superficial "nazi-nostalgia", which is more visible, but rather harmless. For example, the Beatles often wore nazi-uniforms as prank, John Lennon put Hitler on the famous Sgt. Peppers Cover (later removed), the Rolling Stones and Keith Moon from the Who dressed up as nazis, dressing up as Hitler for Halloween isn't a problem in England, there's Adolf Hitler Wein in italy, etc. This seems rather tasteless to us, but it isn't really anything to bother about very much, I think. The more dangerous things is the antisemitism that brings together seemingly diversive groups like muslims, christians and nationalists. They jujoslavian fascists, the ustascha, had islamic fascist units, and we will find them in other places, too. It is not just antisemitism; there are more dangers. When I was turkey, I was always warned by insiders to pose as christian and never ever admit that I am not religious - the fanatic muslims would team up with devoted christians, but kill atheists. (Being atheist was then a reason to get offically arrested, and it would be death there today.) I could add endless examples of very weird and unusal alliances now, but I don't want to stress that topic too much.